| Passage: Job 14-16 On Wednesday, September 4, 2013, Fernando wrote, "Have you listened in the council of God?" Do you limit wisdom to yourself? What do you know or understand that we do not? (a paraphrase of Job 15:8–9). I can imagine Presbyterians, charismatics, Catholics, and Baptists sitting at a table, each in turn saying this line and using the Bible to correct one another. So how is this done rightly? Unfortunately, Job, Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar, and later Elihu had no written point of reference. They had philosophical and traditional arguments. It is evident that what was written on their hearts (cf. Romans 2:15) was their main source of knowledge of God. I love seeing good debates between different denominations. The bad ones are instructive for seeing what the human factor, isolated from Christ, can do. The good ones offer little conjecture and build their arguments "precept upon precept, line upon line." The bad ones also build "precept upon precept, line upon line," but then extrapolate unnecessarily and go beyond what is written. Often the bad ones take authority on themselves and claim special revelation, or simply claim a superior method for connecting the theological dots. This sensational approach often goes beyond what is written, directly contrary to Paul's admonition. Paul told the Ephesian elders that he was innocent of the blood of all, for he had not shrunk from declaring the whole counsel of God; that they must pay careful attention to themselves and the flock the Spirit had made them overseers of, the church God obtained with His own blood; that after his departure fierce wolves would come in, not sparing the flock, and from among their own number men would arise "speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them"; and that they must therefore be alert, remembering that for three years he had admonished each one with tears (a paraphrase of Acts 20:26–31). Ultimately, the bad debaters will exploit differences and cause division ("from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things"). The good debates will simply be a test from the Lord — and a test from the Lord refines, and happens among the faithful. Without faith, the same situation becomes a curse, and a person's life-giving or death-bearing nature is made evident. "Therefore be alert!" "Your iniquity teaches your mouth, and you choose the tongue of the crafty" (Job 15:5). It is a wonder how little truth there is in Job's friends' speeches. What is rebuked here resembles what James says: the tongue is a fire, and we should not be a mixture of fresh and bitter water, blessing God and cursing people with the same mouth. And Jesus said that what defiles us is not what goes into the body but what comes out of it, which reveals our nature — for we were by nature children of wrath like the rest of mankind (cf. Mark 7:15–23; Ephesians 2:3). James asks whether a spring can pour forth both fresh and salt water, or a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine figs; neither can a salt pond yield fresh water (a paraphrase of James 3:11–12). If we are alive in Christ, then the river of life should flow through us, and our fruit should be of one kind. The water drawn from us should be of one kind. Control your tongue by simply saying less. Do not let wisdom in your own eyes fill in what God has not said or what you have forgotten. We can see Paul apply this to himself and his ministry. He tells the Corinthians that his speech and message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that their faith might rest not in human wisdom but in the power of God (a paraphrase of 1 Corinthians 2:4–5). Whether "God's power" here refers to miraculous signs or simply the Spirit's power to incline a heart is beside the point. Paul deliberately did not rely on crafty methods, but simply and plainly worshiped before his audience in spirit and truth. AI-Expanded Reflection The comment's image of denominations at a table quoting Eliphaz to one another is an apt one, because Eliphaz's words in Job 15:8–9 are not wrong in themselves — the problem is who is using them and how. Eliphaz accuses Job of claiming special access to God's council, while he himself had earlier claimed a night vision as the basis of his authority (4:12–17). The irony the comment points to runs throughout the book: the friends say many true things about God, and are rebuked at the end for not speaking rightly (42:7), because they applied true principles falsely to a situation they did not understand. The comment's call for debate that stays within what is written echoes 1 Corinthians 4:6, and Paul's farewell to the Ephesian elders gives the right spirit for it: he declared "the whole counsel of God," and he did so "with tears" (Acts 20:27, 31). Doctrinal seriousness and tenderness belong together. James 3:17 describes the wisdom from above as "first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason," full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere — a good checklist for any theological conversation among Christians who disagree. | ||
| Passage: Job 14-16 On Friday, June 14, 2013 (Last Updated on 6/13/2022), Yujin wrote, Job cries, "O earth, do not cover my blood," asking that his cry find no resting place, and then declares, "Even now, behold, my witness is in heaven, and my advocate is on high" (a paraphrase of Job 16:18–19). Job expresses his agony, yet he embraces hope in the Lord. This reminds me of the story behind a famous hymn written by Horatio G. Spafford, a successful Chicago attorney in the nineteenth century and a devout Christian with a wife and four daughters. In 1871 the Great Chicago Fire destroyed much of the city, and Spafford, whose wealth was largely in real estate, suffered devastating losses. Two years later his wife and daughters sailed for Europe, with Spafford planning to follow. Mid-Atlantic, their ship collided with another vessel and sank within minutes. All four girls drowned. Mrs. Spafford was rescued and brought to Wales, from where she sent her husband a two-word cable: "Saved alone." How did this Christian man respond? Not with stoic resolve to grit his teeth and bear it. He wrote a hymn, whose refrain every Christian knows: "It is well, it is well with my soul." He could say that whether peace attended his way like a river or sorrows rolled like sea billows. That is not stoicism; it is the triumph of faith — being more than a conqueror in the face of everything. Job expressed the beginning of such hope in the midst of agony. Paul completes the thought when he writes that our light and momentary affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond comparison, as we look not to what is seen but to what is unseen — for what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal (a paraphrase of 2 Corinthians 4:17–18). We cannot appreciate these words without reading the whole context. Paul has just listed his troubles — afflicted in every way, perplexed, persecuted, struck down, always carrying in his body the death of Jesus (cf. 2 Corinthians 4:8–10). And then, looking at that list, he calls it "light affliction." Light? It sounds crushing. But Paul does not say these things are light in themselves. He says they become light when weighed against something else — "an eternal weight of glory." The affliction may weigh a pound, or a ton, on the scale by itself; put that glory on the other side, and the ton becomes a feather. Friends, this is the Christian's testimony, and the secret of our joy in every circumstance. It is why Paul could write, "I can do all things through him who strengthens me" (Philippians 4:13). Once we have glimpsed this glory, our afflictions actually work for us: they drive us to look at the things that are unseen and make us more certain of the glory to come. So the question for us is this: do we know something of this glory? Do we set our affections on it? Do we live in its light? That has been the secret of Christians in every century, and will be until we arrive in the glory itself, changed into the image of our Lord and Savior, for "we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is" (1 John 3:2). May God raise up in this age a people who can look at this life, which they share with everyone else, and when everything seems to drive them toward despair, say with Paul that their affliction is light and momentary beside the glory to come — and with Job, "Even now, behold, my witness is in heaven." AI-Expanded Reflection Job 16:19 is one of three remarkable moments in the book where Job reaches for someone to stand between himself and God. In 9:33 he laments that there is no arbiter who could lay his hand on both of them. Here in 16:19–21 he declares that his witness is in heaven, one who will argue a man's case with God as one does for a friend. And in 19:25 he confesses that his Redeemer lives. Interpreters debate whether Job has God Himself in view or another heavenly figure, but Christian readers have long heard in these lines a longing that finds its answer in Christ — "we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1), who "always lives to make intercession" (Hebrews 7:25). The Spafford story has a further chapter that is also worth knowing. The family's grief continued — a son born later died of scarlet fever in childhood — and the Spaffords eventually moved to Jerusalem in 1881, where they founded a community that cared for the poor, ran soup kitchens, and during World War I provided relief to people of every faith. The Spafford Children's Center in Jerusalem continued that work for generations. The hymn was not the end of their suffering but the beginning of a life spent serving others in it. | ||
| Passage: Job 14-16 On Thursday, June 14, 2012 (Last Updated on 6/14/2013), Yujin wrote,
Job does not here make a distinction between righteous suffering and well-deserved suffering. When friends find their friends suffering, whatever the reason, comfort is in order and not rebuke. In fact, even when enemies are suffering the judgment of God, the Bible teaches against gloating over them:
There is a time for rebuke and a time for comfort. Notice that even the prophets change their tune from words of rebuke and condemnation to words of comfort and hope when speaking to the exilic and post-exilic community. The Edomites (descendants of Esau) were severely condemned because they gloated over the judgment of their brother Israelites (descendants of Jacob):
Why is it right not to rebuke, condemn, or gloat over the misfortunes of others, even those that are being judged for their sins? It is because in many respects we are deserving of the same misfortune except for the grace of God. This is what Jesus taught:
Jesus tells the people who are living that they should not be surprised at those who died, that they should not try to discern the sins that caused the misfortune, but that they should repent so that the same does not happen to them. In other words, He's saying, "Don't be surprised that they died. Be surprised that you are still living." Those that gloat over the misfortunes of others do not have a right view of themselves, and they have not understood that they are still alive and not judged because of the grace of God. There is a time to rebuke, correct and admonish, but that time is not in the midst of suffering and loss. In such times, compassionate comfort and patient kindness are in order. This is especially true for our friends, but even for enemies we should take this view of things. Remember the words of our Lord in the Sermon on the Mount:
What is remarkable here is that when we extend such lovingkindness to those we think do not deserve it, we are emulating our heavenly Father, for He too loves people who are undeserving. While He judges, He also extends grace. When we extend this kind of grace to others, especially in the midst of their suffering and misfortune, we are becoming "perfect" as God the Father "is perfect." This teaches us that part of God's moral perfection is captured in the giving of grace. Therefore, let us too be slow to condemn and quick to extend grace to others. AI-Expanded Reflection Job imagines how he would speak if the friends occupied his place. He could construct accusations too, but he says he would use speech to strengthen and relieve. The contrast exposes the purpose of counsel. Words can be technically impressive and still burden the person they claim to help. Job's friends have moved from sitting silently with him to protecting a theory at his expense. His appeal asks them to recover the relational obligation that brought them there in the first place. The prohibition of gloating in Proverbs 24:17–18 and the indictment of Edom in Obadiah show that another person's calamity does not suspend our moral responsibilities. Edom's offense develops from standing aloof to rejoicing, plundering, and intercepting fugitives. The progression matters: contempt for sufferers can prepare the way for exploiting them. A claim that God is judging someone does not authorize us to intensify the suffering or enrich ourselves through it. Obadiah judges Edom for concrete acts, not merely for failing to feel sufficiently sad. Luke 13:1–5 similarly rejects a hierarchy in which victims of atrocity or accident must have been worse sinners than survivors. Jesus directs the hearers toward their own need for repentance. He does not promise that repentance will prevent every comparable earthly disaster; his warning concerns the peril of remaining unreconciled to God. This distinction protects bereaved people from the implication that their loved ones could have guaranteed physical safety by being more faithful. The original's call to comfort before rebuke is pastorally wise as a corrective to reflexive blame, but its absolute form needs qualification. Sometimes suffering accompanies an ongoing harmful action that must be addressed promptly—for example, when someone continues exploiting another person while lamenting the consequences. Compassion and truthful correction need not be alternatives. Galatians 6:1–2 joins gentle restoration with bearing burdens. The relevant questions are whether an offense is actually known, whether correction is needed now, and whether the manner of speaking serves restoration rather than superiority. Matthew 5 grounds enemy-love in the Father's generosity. His gifts of sun and rain reach people who do not deserve them; the disciple's kindness should not be limited to those who reciprocate. That generosity does not deny judgment. It refuses to make vengeance or contempt our personal vocation. In practice, comforting may mean listening without diagnosing, meeting a practical need, protecting a sufferer's dignity, or refusing to circulate an accusation. These acts can communicate God's grace more faithfully than a prematurely supplied explanation of why the pain occurred. | ||
| Passage: Job 14-16 On Tuesday, June 14, 2011, Unmi wrote, In Job 9:33–35, Job longs for a mediator between himself and God — someone to bring them together, to remove God's rod from him so he could finally speak without fear (a paraphrase of Job 9:33–35). At that point, Job seems to be longing for something he doesn't yet have. But by Job 16:18–21, his tone has changed: he calls on the earth not to cover his blood, insisting his witness is already in heaven, his advocate on high, interceding for him as a friend would plead for a friend (a paraphrase of Job 16:18–21). This is no longer a longing for something that doesn't exist — it's now a statement of belief that he actually has an advocate, one who lives in heaven and pleads his case. John later writes that believers have exactly this kind of advocate with the Father — Jesus Christ, the righteous one, who is the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the whole world (a paraphrase of 1 John 2:1–2). In Hebrews, Paul describes Jesus's priesthood in similar terms — unlike the Aaronic priests, whose service ended at death, Jesus lives forever and holds a permanent priesthood, able to fully save those who come to God through Him because He always lives to intercede for them (a paraphrase of Hebrews 7:23–25). Job may not have known Jesus by name, but it seems he genuinely believed he had a mediator, advocate, and redeemer in heaven, pleading his case before God. AI-Expanded Reflection The shift this comment traces — from Job's chapter 9 longing for a mediator who doesn't seem to exist yet, to his chapter 16 confidence that one is already interceding for him in heaven — happens without any recorded revelation or divine explanation in between; nothing in the intervening chapters tells Job this news. That makes it one of the more remarkable movements in the whole book: Job's confidence in an advocate grows not because his circumstances improve or his questions get answered, but seemingly through the sheer act of continuing to reason and pray his way through unresolved suffering. It's a pattern worth noticing for anyone waiting on unanswered prayer — conviction sometimes deepens before the answer arrives, not after. | ||
| Passage: Job 14-16 On Monday, June 14, 2010, John and Marsha wrote, Today's reading reminds me of how often, when helping a friend in crisis, the person in need really just needs someone to comfort and listen to them — not answer all of life's deepest questions or explain why this is happening. Sometimes I feel the need to try to "fix" everything and "explain" everything when something goes wrong for a friend, when really I just need to be quiet and mourn with them. Job replies to his friends, calling them miserable comforters, tired of their long-winded arguments, and points out that he could speak the very same way if their positions were reversed — but insists that if it were him in their place, his mouth would encourage rather than accuse, and comfort from his lips would bring relief instead of more pain. He adds that speaking doesn't relieve his own pain, and staying silent doesn't make it go away either (a paraphrase of Job 16:1–6). — John AI-Expanded Reflection Job's friends actually got something exactly right before they ever opened their mouths: when they first arrive, they sit with him in silence for seven days and nights, saying nothing, because they see how great his suffering is (Job 2:12–13). Their real failure comes only once they start talking, trying to explain what couldn't yet be explained. This comment's own instinct — resist the urge to fix and explain, just be present — is, in effect, the friends' best moment in the entire book, before they ever ruined it by breaking the silence. Job's complaint isn't against comfort itself; it's against comfort dressed up as an argument. | ||